Five reasons to reject Jindal.
Apr 14th, 2007 by Daniel Z.
This is not an all inclusive list. There are many more reasons to reject him as a choice for governor. However, I felt that this response to another post was so important that it deserved its own thread.
A) Jindal voted against HR 1591, voting against the needs of Louisiana by voting to support Bush’s failed Iraq policy. Timetables are a good thing because currently the Iraqi people have no sense of urgency to completely take over their own self defense. By telling the Iraqis that they have until a certain date to be prepared (and that we will help them fund it) we will give them that sense of urgency. We will train them to defend themselves. We will hand over the self defense to the Iraqi people affirming our victory in Iraq. And if they refuse to do it, why should we be sending our troops over there to die. Voting against HR 1591 was a vote against Louisiana and a vote against the troops. His vote against it is reason #1 to reject Bobby Jindal.
B) Bobby Jindal voted to weaken house ethics during the Tom Delay scandal as one of his first votes in the House. If Bobby Jindal is willing to put partisan politics over ethics, how can anyone claim that he will bring a change to corrupt Louisiana? He has also accepted some unethical donations that have been discussed elsewhere on this site. His vote against ethics makes me afraid that he would keep Louisiana as the most corrupt state in the union by voting to support party over ethics and over the needs of our state. That is reason #2 to not vote for Jindal.
C) Jindal has voted against education. In his “career” in Congress, Jindal has voted to cut federal student aid by over 12 billion and has voted to against reducing federal student loan rates by 50%. Louisiana ranks very low in education. How could we expect to improve our education when Bobby Jindal votes to make it harder for students to seek an education? Jindal’s lack of commitment to education, along with our need to have a governor who will promise to be strong on education, is reason #3 for not supporting Jindal.
D) Jindal’s lies about his record are just disturbing. In a 2006 flier, Jindal claimed to support ethics and education (statements that have been countered above). Jindal’s website claims that he was instrumental in getting offshore oil revenue for Louisiana when in reality he kept fighting for his bill that put an undue burden on states when they want to try and keep drilling of their coasts. His continued fighting for his bill almost killed the possibility of any bill passing. Only after the election in November did he decide to support the Domenici-Landrieu Bill. We need a governor who will give us the straight story, not someone who will try and mislead the voting public. We also need someone who isn’t so greedy that he would risk us getting our fair share of oil revenues by pushing for his own bill to pass. That is reason #4 why we should reject Jindal.
E) Jindal’s record in healthcare is much worse than his campaign would lead you to believe. Yes, he turned a deficit into a surplus. A multi-million dollar surplus! Is that good? Well, in a for-profit company that is absolutely wonderful! However, the Louisiana Department of Health is not a for-profit company. It is a department that is charged to provide healthcare services to the people who need it and cannot afford it. How responsible is it to sit on funds that are SUPPOSED to be spent on healthcare and, instead, close clinics and take away that care? It is not responsible. If that is Jindal’s idea on how to run one department, I do not want to see how Jindal will run the entire state. Jindal’s refusal to view the effect that his cuts would have on people is the 5th reason to reject Jindal.
See! 5 strong reasons to reject Jindal and not once did I mention the fact that he would force a 12 year old who was impregnated by a rape to not have an abortion despite the fact that she had no choice in the matter and there are increased health risks with pregnancies that young.
(2 votes, average: 3 out of 5)
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5 great reasons!
A) We’ve already shot the bull on this reason. If you can’t recognize that HR1591 was bad politics in a nutshell, than we will have to agree to disagree. I’ve already brought up points that Jindal is promoting several other pro-hurricane recovery bills, but we seem to be digressing into the no vote for this bill. In fact, if you look into the bill closer, those that voted no, didn’t do so on partisan vote; almost all did it because they recognized bad politics. The Georgia representatives (who were to receive some federal funding for misc. projects) also shot it down too. I’m sorry, this is not a compelling reason.
B) I did look up this bill and his voting record on this issue. It does appear you are correct. I’ll look into it further.
C) Bobby Jindal AGAINST education?! HR 5 2007, he voted to decrease the interest rates on federal student loans. By HALF. And to your commments, perhaps Jindal feels that it’s not the responsibility of the federal government, but rather the state government to provide financial aid. We have a federal deficit; I’m not certain that wouldn’t be the way to go.
D) Now I’m confused. You said that you don’t want a governor who will simply vote partisan in many other posts, but here you discredit him for pursuing his own bill. Yes he should support his own bill, greed was not the driving force. Not to mention HR 6 of 2005, he WAS instrumental in freeing up tax dollars to promote oil drilling. And supporting it again, in HR 7 of 2007 he voted NO to repeal the tax cuts on oil drilling in the G of Mexico.
Jindal DOES support education, and WAS instrumental in securing oil revenue.
E) Again, no answer I’ll look into it more.
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So I didn’t have a response for only 2 of the 5. And the first reason on this list is not compelling to me. I still await 5 solid reasons why NOT to vote for Bobby Jindal.
He’s a spin artist. Listen to the questions asked of him and the answer provided. Then go and check up on what he said. Great dispairity from what he says and what gets done., This is a crucial time in our state’s history. Wae do not need spin or rhetoric. To many words have been passed in Louisiana without the work getting done. We can ill afford the standard run of the mill politician. We have languished far too long in word games.
Now he said he’ll fight for our rights, new article I saw. Does that mean he’ll ammend the abortion laws to allow women a choice if they are a victum of a crime? I’ll hold his hand to the fire. WE have had enough Havard type studies done on our state. Too many words have been passed. IT’s time to put the shovel to work and clean out the BS and move this state forward.
He doesn’t have what it takes to be a leader. He takes his orders from the RNC. We need straight shooters.
NELA: If you dont think A is a compelling reasons, which many people I have spoken to do (Republicans and Democrats alike) then we can replace A with the fact that I want a governor to have a backbone. When Jindal was faced with his congressional elections, he hid from debate. He refused to come to any candidate forums except the very first one in the 2004 campaign. What was he afraid of? If he is so “smart” and has such good ideas then why wouldn’t you look forward to the opportunity to defend them? He was so paranoid in 2004 that he believed all 4 Democratic candidates where sent by the Louisiana Democratic Party (when in reallity the Louisiana Democratic Party gave me absolutely 0 help).
B) Do you not think that our governor should be ethical? To me, reason B should be enough to reject Jindal by itself! Do you really need there to be “five” reasons. If I give you two REALLY good reasons then shouldn’t that be good enough?
C) Yes, in HR 5 Jindal voted to cut student loan rates by 50%. However, in his first term Jindal voted AGAINST doing that same thing. Why the flip-flop? Why did he vote against it before voting for it? Now, if you believe that the Federal government should stop funding education that is a different argument. However, I think you would see a lot fewer students attending college and bettering themselves (and this country) if the Federal government stopped awarding student aid. All I have to go on is Jindals votes and his statements about education. All I see him doing is cutting funds to education. Nothing assures me that he will, as governor, make positive improvements to the educational system (and as of yet I have seen no plan from him to do so). If you have information showing what Jindal would do as governor when it comes to education then please provide it. Until then I can only go by his votes, and those include an initial vote of not reducing student loan rates AND a vote to decrease federal financial aid by 12 billion dollars.
D) It was clear that his bill was not going to pass. Jindal’s bill put an undue burden on the states that want to prevent drilling on their coasts. I thought Republicans where supposed to be the party that supported the states and their constitutionally protected 10th amendment powers! When both bills went to committee it was clear that his bill was not going to make it in the Senate because of that issue (and others). So, instead of quickly working to find some sort of compromise or alternative, Jindal fought against the bill that passed through the 2006 election. He only changed his mind after he was re-elected, making his bills failure no longer an issue.
The fact that he supported a bill that put the undue burden on the states is bad enough in an of itself. If Jindal doesn’t respect the constitutional powers of a state while in Congress, how are we to expect that he will respect them as Governor?
Nothing I have seen shows Jindal as being a good supporter of education. His one vote that you point out doesn’t stand up two the two that I pointed out. And yo have not shown how he was “instrumental” in getting the revenue bill passed (since it wasnt even his own bill that was passed and he fought against the Domenici-Landrieu bill to a point where he risked it actually failing). Besides, how can someone with a power ranking of 432 in Congress actually be instrumental in anything?
I mean, if you are going to decide on the reasons based on the quantity over the quality then I doubt I will ever convince you. You will likely be able to find one issue with one of the 5, making you only see 4 compelling reasons. Why wouldn’t 1 compelling reasons (like the ethics issue) be enough? I mean, the state already has an image problem when it comes to ethical behavior. Do we really want to be electing someone who really thinks voting to weaken house ethics was a good idea?
Ok. I ask you, danz, who do you think right now, could do a better job as govenor, since you feel so strongly about your convictions?
I would respond again in length, but I sincerely doubt it would get us anywhere.
John Breaux’s website links to this page. But they added one too many Ws to the link. I asked them to repair it.
Here is my take on the Governor’s race after Breaux’s announcement:
http://www.dailykingfish.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=18
LAgirl thanks for that heads. Guess who ran the Breaux site, wink wink. Now that he’s not running we can come out of the closet. I mainly did it to help gauge support and help support someone other than Jindal. Whether I would have voted for Breaux or not I’m not sure but I felt it was worth a shot to side track Jindal.
So where do you see this race going?
Lizzie you’re not even tempted to vote for Tony G?
JIB, I never would have known. And now you have a list of email addresses.
Should I use them for good or evil!! ?? Haha just kidding.
I thought I posted a comment? did I break a rule?
Look at the Jindal donors, Most of them are working to drive down the cost of labor, these are guys that will hire illegal aliens or people on special work visas to drive down the cost of labor in Louisiana. Jindal is going to help flood this state with more illegal immigrants and work visas, then he is going to help flood the southern parishes with the gulf of mexico.
In the mean time the people of louisisana are being appealed to by PR stunts and gun ownership rallies. Lets appeal to the people of louisiana with the truth. This is guys is a crook and their guns are not going to help them when a storm surge flattens their homes.
FP: It would be really helpful if you could list specific companies that are working to drive down the cost of labor.
All republican companies want to drive down the cost of labor. To what extent they go to depends on how greedy they are. And their values.
Since hardly anything is ever done to enforce illegal hiring or to prosecute the people that lure the immigrants here it is not well documented. People tend to get mad at the immigrants and not the people hiring them. There is probably some list of Louisiana companies that applied for the Work Visas. Compare that list, to the list of Jindal Donators. I have no doubt there will be a high correlation there. Jindal may be against immigrants but he is pro using their cheap labor. He is against giving people rights to negotiate but he is for HB-1 visas and cheap labor.
Here is an example of how the people are looking at this issue: http://creoleneworleans.typepad.com/creole_folks/2007/04/contractors_usi.html
To me, those aren’t really good reasons not to vote for him. All politicians do what he has done. They all spin things. And for goodness sake, he’s a Republican. Of course he will support the war in Iraq and cut spending on education.
Why don’t you just come out and say that as a Democrat, you’d rather vote for a white man/woman than “that brown dude.” Funny how Republicans have the record to back up them hiring minorities….but Dems just bitch about inequalities.
If it makes you happy though, I don’t think Jindal will win anyway. Like I said, not too many people in Louisiana will want to vote for the “brown guy.” That is just sad.
Jenny: If you read this blog in its entirety, you would see that my feelings on Bobby Jindal have absolutely nothing to do with his ethnicity. I have said, on many occasions (especially on here) that if I was given a choice between Bobby Jindal and David Duke that I would not only vote for Bobby Jindal but I would also put his bumper sticker on my car.
I said in one post that I would put that statement randomly in the posts, just in case people like you come to the blog and try and pull that racist card out as if it meant anything.
I cannot tell you how many times I was told by Republicans during the 2006 elections that they would never vote for Democrats because Democrats are a bunch of “N—–R Lovers”. So don’t try and get away with the whole “Democrats are racists” idea.
Jenny, here is an example of where I stated the very same statement about Jindal v. Duke, just to make sure you know that your claims that we dont like Jindal because he is not white are false.
http://www.jindalisbad.com/jindal-is-campaigning/
DAN Z., IT SEEMS AS THOUGH YOU HAVE A GOOD HEAD ON YOUR SHOULDERS. ALTHOUGH THIS IS MY FIRST TIME “SPEAKING UP”, I’VE READ SOME OF YOUR EARLIER POSTS. IN PARTICULAR, YOUR CARE FOR BIPARTISANSHIP (JINDAL’S OIL BILL). WHAT’S THE REASON FOR HAVING POLITICAL PARTIES IF NOT FOR POLITICAL PARTISANSHIP?
Interesting name D.Zim! Jindal’s oil bill was not about partisanship, it was about flawed planning and a bill that violated the spirit of the 10th amendment by placing an undue burden on states who wish to prevent oil drilling off their coasts. The bill that passed the Senate was a bipartisan bill.
Honest and spirited debate is one of the things that makes our country great. However, there are certain things that we shouldn’t be partisan on and one of those things is the rebuilding from the damage of the 2005 hurriances.
Oh Dan Zimmerman ran against Bobby Jindal and has been on Bobby Jindal’s case ever since their first election a few years ago.
Ron: That is not a secret. And one of the reasons that I am well informed about Bobby Jindal is because when I ran against him I took the time to educate myself about him and his record.
It is unfortunate that people listen to florists about who to vote for instead of making their own decisions.
UMMMMMMMMMM Dan I didn’t get that from a Florist at all lol. I got it from one of my awesome friends.
Did I say “it is unfortunate that Ron Chiasson listens to Florists”?
No, I didn’t.
I said “people”.
Dan please post the name of your blog.
I have.
Dan Zimmerman listens to Gay People bigtime!!!!
Homosexuallity has become the new communism when it comes to scaring the base of the right wing. It isn’t funny. It is sad, pathetic, and wrong.
I guess you agree with David Vitter who, after Hurricane Katrina said, “I don’t believe there’s any issue that’s more important than this one” when referring to gay marriage. How dumb can he be?
Oh now we are bashing David Vitter huh Dan Zimmerman. Big Deal what he did. No you are the one thats Wrong Dan Zimmerman not Bobby Jindal not David Vitter but you bigtime. For all the people who come in here and listen to these two jerks I would get out of here because they are all wrong and they really love to bash you bigtime. Yeah I’m only bashing them because I hate them bigtime.
I have bashed David Vitter ever since he made that ignorant comment. I will continue to bash Vitter for making that ignorant comment.
Big deal? With the war going on and hurricane rebuilding, Vitter thinks the most important issue is Gay Marriage? He is an idiot.
You are providing some good comic relief to this site though.